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Re: "dystopian" literature
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2006, 04:39:31 PM »

Left-leaning sci-fi writers always seem to conceive of "corporate dystopia," wherein corporations have completed their takeover of government and become de facto authorities over people.
They're describing a society which could never arise in the form in which they conceive it; the nearest such form of dystopia is the form we see around us today.
Corporations require a host government to force people to do things; without it, they're just another business you can take or leave.

I am not sure what Neal's political leanings are. He is a pretty complicated guy, and he does not preach about society. He creates interesting ones to set his stories in.

I'm way, way ahead of you. :)
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2006, 04:42:52 PM »

the statist is the terrorist

Ray Bradburys, "The Illustraded Man" is a classic. You can get it on paper back for about 10 bones. It's worth it to have it in your study. Did you understand that you stupid fucking redneck?! :P
i have it already and fahrenheit 451
my library has atlas shrugged in their system, but the book is nowhere to be found  :lol:
so I'll read me some ray bradbury  :D
Well then give me some decent Sci-Fi books dood. I like twisted space stories.


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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2006, 07:52:22 PM »

Left-leaning sci-fi writers always seem to conceive of "corporate dystopia," wherein corporations have completed their takeover of government and become de facto authorities over people.

They're describing a society which could never arise in the form in which they conceive it; the nearest such form of dystopia is the form we see around us today.

Corporations require a host government to force people to do things; without it, they're just another business you can take or leave.

Although businesses could certainly amass enough armed thugs to act like a government.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2006, 08:30:06 PM »

the statist is the terrorist

Ray Bradburys, "The Illustraded Man" is a classic. You can get it on paper back for about 10 bones. It's worth it to have it in your study. Did you understand that you stupid fucking redneck?! :P
i have it already and fahrenheit 451
my library has atlas shrugged in their system, but the book is nowhere to be found  :lol:
so I'll read me some ray bradbury  :D
Well then give me some decent Sci-Fi books dood. I like twisted space stories.


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Have you read that one? The Silent Towns, thats my favorite story.  :)
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2006, 09:18:25 PM »


I really like 'Snow Crash' by Neal Stephenson.

That book is hella long right B?

The copy I have is 468 pages.
I really wouldn't have minded if it had been longer.
It was a fun read.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2006, 09:20:07 PM »


I really like 'Snow Crash' by Neal Stephenson.

That book is hella long right B?

The copy I have is 468 pages.
I really wouldn't have minded if it had been longer.
It was a fun read.


That's not bad. What's the plot outline? summed up quick...
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2006, 09:27:43 PM »

That's not bad. What's the plot outline? summed up quick...

Uh, that's going to be a bit of a problem, its a very complicated plot.

In its simplest terms I guess its about a pizza delivery driver/hacker who is trying to stop the 'metaverse' (a sort of a VR internet) from being destroyed by a computer virus.

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2006, 09:30:07 PM »

That's not bad. What's the plot outline? summed up quick...

Uh, that's going to be a bit of a problem, its a very complicated plot.

In its simplest terms I guess its about a pizza delivery driver/hacker who is trying to stop the 'metaverse' (a sort of a VR internet) from being destroyed by a computer virus.


Is he a stoner?  :P
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2006, 10:53:58 PM »

That's not bad. What's the plot outline? summed up quick...

Uh, that's going to be a bit of a problem, its a very complicated plot.

In its simplest terms I guess its about a pizza delivery driver/hacker who is trying to stop the 'metaverse' (a sort of a VR internet) from being destroyed by a computer virus.


Is he a stoner?  :P

Aren't all pizza delivery drivers?

Its not brought up in the book, but I bet Hiro prolly smokes a blunt every now and then.
(The hero/protagonist of the story is named Hiro Protagonist. Best name ever)
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Re: "dystopian" literature
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2006, 12:39:37 AM »

V for Vendetta.
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Re: "dystopian" literature
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2006, 12:58:01 AM »

Neal Stephenson rocks my world. He needs to write as prolifically as Stephen King does. :)
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2006, 02:21:23 AM »

Neal Stephenson rocks my world. He needs to write as prolifically as Stephen King does. :)

I just got into him not long ago.
What should I read of his next?
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Re: "dystopian" literature
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2006, 02:23:41 AM »

Cryptonomicon.
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2006, 03:01:32 AM »

Snow Crash is actually another book I had a really hard time reading (I gave up after about 50 pages).  Basically the writing seems really pedestrian and like he felt he had to jazz every single sentence up with some outrageous simile/metaphor/hyperbole and choose words that make it sound like he was a lexical genius, when really they were out of place, were used incorrectly, and a much simpler word would have gotten the job done just as well.

These reviews pretty much sum up my feelings on it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2Y4B35TQ955CW/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2W55FWVNL9QNL/

That having been said, the concept of the book is great, and he definitely has a vivid imagination.  And from what I hear his later books are much, much more mature in writing style.  I just can't get through this one.
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Re: "dystopian" literature
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2006, 03:08:11 AM »

Snow Crash wasn't his first book, though it's quite true that his writing matured over time.

Go check out his REAL first book, The Big U. It's much, much different than anything else he's written.
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