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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 05:26:54 AM »

What's funny about that is I literally grew up getting Alta Dena delivered to my house.  Good milk, although a bit expensive.
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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 06:18:07 AM »

You know, it's sorta a coincidence.  I grew up with the Stueve family, of the Alta Dena Dairy, referenced in the recent FreeTalkLive story about raw milk. 

They fought the government (California gov, I think) for years and millions of dollars to retain the right to distribute raw milk, and ultimately lost.  They were excellent people.  The dairy was spotless, and they won countless awards for quality in the LA County area.  I believe they actually "invented" frozen yogurt.  We sampled it there before we'd ever heard about it.  Several (church, parochial school) events a year were held there, and they provided all sorts of fund raising opportunities.  Their children went to the various local Lutheran schools.

Anyway, before giving up milk altogether, I spent several years drinking their raw product.  Incidentally, switching to raw cleared up my acne as a teenager.  Wouldn't be surprised if homogenized/pasteurized milk contributes to teen acne.  I truly think the reason why governments outlawed the raw milk is because the other dairies have shitty sanitation practices, and the pasteurization became the lazy way out for them; since they didn't want to compete, they ganged up on the quality dairies and outlawed the product.

Apparently they just did a study and found that whole dairy products actually decrease heart attacks by 26 per cent http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65733320100608

So is the rising rates of heart disease and the policies of the government in relation to milk actually the root cause of so many deaths ?

When it comes to unintended consequences you cant beat the state for fucking up 100 per cent of the time.

A scientist comes out with some study that may be false and the asshole pollies step in  front of the crowd to claim glory....so what happens when it turns out they are wrong?  ( climate change anyone?)
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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2010, 10:03:51 PM »

one of these...................





We should start the unpasteurized milk party

lol
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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2010, 12:12:17 AM »

They should have called it the Koolaid Party instead.  Blind faith in a cult-like "authority" is what they're all about!

To totally kill this meme, would anyone like to join my Filtered Rainwater Party?  It's healthy, rational, and tax-free!


Alex, if you were ever going to get me to join something with you, that would be the cause.

But no.  8)
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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2010, 12:02:32 PM »

Roger Ebert (strange how a man can simultaneously be so sharp and so clueless) recently called for a debate between the coffee party leader and Sarah Palin.  I have to admit, it would be funny to see.
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Re: "Coffee Party" ?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2010, 01:21:03 PM »

Roger Ebert (strange how a man can simultaneously be so sharp and so clueless) recently called for a debate between the coffee party leader and Sarah Palin.  I have to admit, it would be funny to see.

People like Ebert are very good at paying attention to detail, so when it comes to reviewing movies he catches everything. What people like Ebert are HORRIBLE at is thinking things through to their logical end, or realizing the root causes of the details he is so well at pointing out. Similar to guys like Ralph Nader, who is one of the best when it comes to summing up the problems with government corruption, but falls flat on his face by supporting the idea that we need another government agency to regulate the corrupt government agencies.

Palin?.....................I just wanna see her bush 8)
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