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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2011, 02:50:08 PM »


Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


you don't think they'd see the irony of sending me back to the UK for protesting more freedom?

No.. I think they'd frogmarch you through the gulag, irony-free.

damn I thought you guys had a nicer, kinder and fluffier sort of tyrant?

That's Canada.

They're not even what they used to be.  I think all the kinder, fluffier tyrants died off in the 20th century.  It seems the only places to run from global fascism are New Hampshire and the open seas, and those are probably both temporary.
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2011, 03:43:35 PM »

Costa Rica


Govt wont mess with you much, but you'll have your shit ganked if you're not vigilant.


Too many mosquitos and other weird parasites for my taste though.
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 04:45:51 PM »

Costa Rica

This. NH too I guess.

Most of my filthy rich Objectivist friends are going/have gone to Costa Rica.
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 04:47:08 PM »

New Hampshire's just another -state-
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 04:52:27 PM »

Costa Rica

This. NH too I guess.

Most of my filthy rich Objectivist friends are going/have gone to Costa Rica.

Do you hear much back from them about it, as far as how its going?
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »

I want to be a filthy rich objectivist...
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 05:00:39 PM »

I want to be a filthy rich objectivist...

From what I hear, if you're 1/2 rich here, you'll be rich in Costa Rica.
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 05:28:54 PM »

New Hampshire's just another -state-
This.
If NH were free, there' be no need for an FSP.
As it is, we're less totalitarian than just about any state, and the only one that's trending better over time.
And if you think that's happening without hundreds of people's time, money, dedication, guts, skills, etc... then you're wrong

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 05:52:30 PM »

you're probably right about this....but, I can only stay in Arkansas or Texas for now....
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 05:52:34 PM »

Do you hear much back from them about it, as far as how its going?

Money goes a long fucking way down there as I understand.

But you can get crazy properties and hire people to work for you for next to nothing.

http://www.propertiesincostarica.com/mountain.html
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2011, 11:34:40 AM »

Money goes a long fucking way down there as I understand.
But you can get crazy properties and hire people to work for you for next to nothing.
Why bother moving to Costa Rica for that? We'll have that in the USA in 5-10 years.

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2011, 12:10:48 PM »

stability. The assumed US collapse will bring about the conditions you describe while in Costa Rica, it's a stabile situation.
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Re: !Introduction¡ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 12:47:14 PM »

Money goes a long fucking way down there as I understand.
But you can get crazy properties and hire people to work for you for next to nothing.
Why bother moving to Costa Rica for that? We'll have that in the USA in 5-10 years.

Well one is fact and the other is highly informed (Probably accurate) speculation that can't be confirmed until it happens.

But none of us knows how many fingers gooberment has to stick into the economic dyke at this point. They could drag this shit out for a long, long time. Not to mention the fact that a collapse doesn't equate to the end of the state.

I'm not going to Costa Rica, but I wouldn't exactly dispute the efficacy of lugging it out there. Except maybe the bugs and shit. Dump truck sized mosquitoes are a bummer.

If we do make a move to protect our interests, it'll be one of the following in descending order - New Hampshire, Wyoming, Montana. If it's an emergency move it'll be "someplace closer".

Contingencies are important. What happens if the East coast gets attacked? (New York will forever be the whipping boy, probably.) What happens if feds take over national park land for some reason? What is the relative difficulty for traveling year round? Are we close enough to an interstate highway to grab and go? Are we too close in case the highways get shut off somehow?

Infrastructure is important. We currently live less than ten miles from I94, US23, I275, I75, Michigan Avenue and US 24. All of which can be reached from different directions and via back roads. Nevertheless we are in "The country" and our property is considered tiny at one acre by comparison to the average lot around here. You can get locally grown food, water is plentiful, and luxuries are less than an hour away.

The planning it took to situate ourselves like that (And many many other factors!) took me about four years. I'd have been happier if I could have found a house one mile further South, in Monroe county, because there's no legal crap with water access. In Wayne county you can't have both city water and a well or holding tank hooked to your house at the same time. They don't want backflow into their system with well water. So an emergency well would have to be outdoors, pretty much. They don't give a shit in Monroe. So that's a minus.

That was a really long way to say "Look before you leap." Plan your shit out and make the move when you judge it to be the best time. I've seen a lot of (Particularly young) people who've moved to NH on the FSP love train without even considering where they're even gonna sleep. Many more who just didn't think about the long term of how to make money in a low populace area. That's crazy shit right there. Many of them have left NH because the handouts ran out or there wasn't any work.

Plan that shit out.

There' money to be had and places to live in NH, but if you don't have a good plan, you'll be standing around with your cock in your hand and looking like a damned fool.
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