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!Introductionˇ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« on: May 08, 2011, 02:43:19 PM »

Just a quick hello from Europe!ˇ!ˇ 

Unfortunately we only seem to have anarcho-socialism as a any movement of reasonable size which could be described as coming close to liberty.  These an-coms (anarcho-communists) seem to believe that the use of force to take your property is ok and thus it seems to me they are really just statists.

... so I'm thinking I'd like to move to New Hampshire - I was born in Old Hampshire so it seems poetic 8)

Is there anybody in the Free State Project from Europe?!

Just a ray of hope would do for now :-)

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 03:07:14 PM »

I'm not positive if anyone is from Europe, I'd be surprised if there wasnt a few people though. A better forum to look at would be http://forum.freestateproject.org/
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Re: !Introductionˇ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 03:15:38 PM »

Ziggy was. Of course he outed himself as a dirty statist welfare queen who wanted tax money to pay for his sex change.

There have been a couple others. Can't remember offhand.

Oh, and howdy.
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Re: !Introductionˇ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 03:31:02 PM »

thanks anarchir for the link, I am joining that forum soon and I have found some links therein.

I guess the next question is - once I get there and then supposedly your local tyrants give me bits of green coloured card saying I can stay; what then happens if I become an activist?!  Will they send me packing on the reverse version of the Mayflower?!! :?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 03:48:41 PM »

thanks anarchir for the link, I am joining that forum soon and I have found some links therein.

I guess the next question is - once I get there and then supposedly your local tyrants give me bits of green coloured card saying I can stay; what then happens if I become an activist?!  Will they send me packing on the reverse version of the Mayflower?!! :?

Just dont get caught.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 03:57:32 PM »

thanks anarchir for the link, I am joining that forum soon and I have found some links therein.

I guess the next question is - once I get there and then supposedly your local tyrants give me bits of green coloured card saying I can stay; what then happens if I become an activist?!  Will they send me packing on the reverse version of the Mayflower?!! :?

Just dont get caught.

Isn't that going to be hard when engaging in civil disobedience?  Even just going on a protest or raising awareness?

Seriously your local pigs will send me back to Europe for protesting even with a green card?!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 04:13:59 PM »

Isn't that going to be hard when engaging in civil disobedience?  Even just going on a protest or raising awareness?

Seriously your local pigs will send me back to Europe for protesting even with a green card?!!!!

Depends on what sort of disobedience you're thinking about. Publicly attempting to break laws will cause people who like enforcing laws to pay attention to you.

I'd recommend that if you were going to do that sort of thing, you'd not be carrying ID while doing it, and never talk to police, no matter where you are from.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2011, 04:44:09 PM »

Seems to me better ideas include:
1) getting a marketable skill and coming over legally
2) if you'll be undocumented, taking a more low-key approach. Write LTEs to newspapers, campaign for liberty candidates, help out with liberty organizations... pretty much anything but CD

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2011, 04:48:32 PM »

thanks anarchir for the link, I am joining that forum soon and I have found some links therein.

I guess the next question is - once I get there and then supposedly your local tyrants give me bits of green coloured card saying I can stay; what then happens if I become an activist?!  Will they send me packing on the reverse version of the Mayflower?!! :?

Just dont get caught.

http://www.peacemagazine.org/198.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance
Try some of those perhaps. There are lots of alternative ideas out there. Civil disobedience is just the one that gets press coverage because people tend to get caught (one of the parts of Civil Disobedience is accepting that you may get caught).
Isn't that going to be hard when engaging in civil disobedience?  Even just going on a protest or raising awareness?

Seriously your local pigs will send me back to Europe for protesting even with a green card?!!!!
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Re: !Introductionˇ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2011, 08:12:09 PM »


Seriously your local pigs will send me back to Europe for protesting even with a green card?!!!!

Not only will they send you back to Europe, but they'll send you to your country of citizenship, possibly via a circuitous route.  If that country happens to be in Europe, than Europe it shall be.  Probably.  Eventually. 

You might spend several months in a detention center while they process your identity.  Some of those months might be in Europe, as well.  

Are we exactly sure where Eastern Europe starts and Western Asia begins, these days?  I don't wanna make undue promises.  

Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 02:32:21 AM »


Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


you don't think they'd see the irony of sending me back to the UK for protesting more freedom?
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 02:34:59 AM »

Seems to me better ideas include:
1) getting a marketable skill and coming over legally
2) if you'll be undocumented, taking a more low-key approach. Write LTEs to newspapers, campaign for liberty candidates, help out with liberty organizations... pretty much anything but CD

sounds more than reasonable, you know there is no chance of much liberty here and I'd rather be on the front where my efforts matter.

thanks for the suggestions
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2011, 02:39:46 AM »


Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


you don't think they'd see the irony of sending me back to the UK for protesting more freedom?

No.. I think they'd frogmarch you through the gulag, irony-free.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2011, 02:49:24 AM »


Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


you don't think they'd see the irony of sending me back to the UK for protesting more freedom?

No.. I think they'd frogmarch you through the gulag, irony-free.

damn I thought you guys had a nicer, kinder and fluffier sort of tyrant?
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Re: !Introductionˇ (Help I need to get out of here!)
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2011, 10:39:04 AM »


Are you familiar with the Black Sea?  


you don't think they'd see the irony of sending me back to the UK for protesting more freedom?

No.. I think they'd frogmarch you through the gulag, irony-free.

damn I thought you guys had a nicer, kinder and fluffier sort of tyrant?

That's Canada.
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