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Let's say a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have the baby.  In an ideal system of law and government, which of the parties listed below would be able to forbid her from having an abortion:

I'm not a "pro-lifer", so this is the only option I'll check.
- 25 (35.7%)
Her own guilt should force her or she'll be ostrasized and burn in hell (doesn't involve the gov).
- 14 (20%)
Her parents should be able to forbid the abortion (if she's under 18).
- 9 (12.9%)
Her lawful husband should be able to forbid her.
- 5 (7.1%)
The "baby-daddy" should be to forbid her / sue for damages.
- 6 (8.6%)
The municipal or county government should be able to forbid her (depending on local laws).
- 3 (4.3%)
The state / sub-national government should be able to forbid her.
- 5 (7.1%)
The federal / national government should be able to forbid her.
- 1 (1.4%)
The world government (ex. UN) should be able to forbid her.
- 1 (1.4%)
The higher layers of government should forbid travel to a jurisdiction where it's legal (i.e. across state lines).
- 1 (1.4%)

Total Members Voted: 23


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NHArticleTen

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Re: A Questionnaire For "Pro-Lifers"
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2008, 02:36:24 PM »

The rights of the husband are necessary because there is a responsibility upon the husband.
too

Therein lies the problem. Anyone who is pro-choice presumably believes a parent can absolve themselves of any responsibility to the potential child. By their reasoning, men should be able to have abortions too. It's a much simpler procedue. He just signs three copies of a document, one for him, one for her, and one with a third party arbitrator that says "I resolve myself of all rights to and responsibility for said child" and walks away. The child is now legally dead to him and he has no hopes of even getting visitation rights.

I in fact do believe parents should be able to absolve themselves of responsibility and allow charitable people or organizations to take over care for a child. Whether a particular act of abortion is murder seems to depend on the viability of the fetus, but I suppose I'm technically pro-choice because I don't think the government should get involved. But then I don't think the government should get involved in anything. *shrug*


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Taors

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Re: A Questionnaire For "Pro-Lifers"
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2008, 06:09:40 PM »

Gonna go crying to mommy?


To quote my favorite transexual, "you wish".
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Re: A Questionnaire For "Pro-Lifers"
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2008, 09:57:41 PM »

As a Christian I'm against abortion. As a liberty-minded person I'm against legislating my anti-abortion beliefs on to people. Christians teach their kids not to gossip, lie, covet, etc. without advocating laws against those actions. I don't see why they can't do the same thing with the subject of abortion.

Did Jesus lobby the Roman Senate to pass laws that require people to act like Christians? No. He just said, "This is the way I live. It would be good if everyone followed my example. Now choose for yourselves."

The reason everyone hates the church is because in modern times they've been trying to outlaw abortion, profanity, drinking, gay marriage, etc.

It's why I don't go to a church anymore.
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Re: A Questionnaire For "Pro-Lifers"
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2008, 10:00:37 PM »

If there's already a fucking thread about the subject matter, that's recent, why are you bumping this one?

Because mine isn't retarded.


Fuck off.

See, that's exactly why I help Ukrainian mobsters with their visa issues.  The more hardcore murderers owe you a favor, the more you enjoy it when some punk kid on the Internets tells you to "fuck off".  Oh, the possibilities...


''Wat'' a douche.
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