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Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« on: April 21, 2009, 10:02:12 AM »

I have no idea what the fuck this is about. Sorry for the rich language, but I am a little annoyed right now.

I have the latest and greatest version of MS Word. What is that, 2007? Whatever it is, here is what it will do:

If I am typing at the bottom of the page, and the page adjusted so that the next line I type will appear off-screen. Damn, that doesn't make any sense to me, and I am the one experiencing it.

Ok, there is this bar on the side that you can grab with your cursor, right? that one over there --->
Let's say, you move that bar so that whatever line you type, will appear right above the bottom edge of the window. If you keep typing, what happens? That bar moves up, and the page moves down so that NOW the line you are typing is right above the bottom edge of the window, and that last line you typed is above that. Right?

Well, when I am using MS Word 2007 (or whatever it is) that doesn't happen! I am typing along, and when this line runs out, and the cursor moves down to the next line, the bar on the right (over there ----->) moves all the way up! What I see is the beginning of the damned page, yet the cursor moves DOWN to the next line (it's off-screen, so I can't see it) and if I keep typing... no problem! I just can't see what I am typing. I have to physically grab that bar (that one ------>) and drag it down, so that I can see the cursor and what I am typing.

What a pain in the fucking ASS!

What am I doing wrong here? I don't think the program is f-ed up. I think I am doing something wrong.

Help?

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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 10:21:03 AM »

In M$ terms its called a "feature"
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 10:40:32 AM »

the problem is, you're not using OpenOffice.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 12:38:55 PM »

switch to OpenOffice, your life will be easier.  Office 2007 sucks, along with pretty much anything touched by Microsoft.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 01:15:27 PM »

Yeah office 2007 has been such a pain in the ass at my school, that some teachers are directing students to use PDF exporters on their compositions or flat out using OpenOffice (and still export to PDF). I've had minor down marks because I didn't realize I was using Office 2007 when reading/printing a document that I wrote in OO.org, which would be butchered either by a change in font type, font size, or margin distortions (some how an inch all around doesn't mean an inch all around to Office 2007... o_O).

Anyways, just get a copy of either Abiword or OpenOffice.org. I would suggest OO.org as it has a built in PDF exporter rather than learning how to setup a printer spool to pipe documents to a PDF export daemon/service as you would have to do with Abiword.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 04:06:07 PM »

The closest thing to a word processor that I use on the daily basis is the online rich-text editor in various browser-based webmail, wiki, and forum implementations.  And I haven't touched a printer in years!

Subjectively speaking, Microsoft Word sucks (and thus so do the word processors that imitate it, which is pretty much all of them) for trying to be paper with menus / toolbars / popups, that is forcing the user into the WYSIWYG paradigm while trying to abstract the markup 100%.  This only makes sense to a degree, and only in some circumstances: a good word processor should simply allow the user to choose between various modes.  Much of the time I can type commands and style syntax a lot faster than I can remember the GUI steps to do something (and CSS was not designed to cut keystrokes).

Objectively speaking, Microsoft Word rules because, well it does - huge market share.  It must be doing something right for all them n00bz out there.  When some secretary somewhere needs a macro modified, that's what you gotta know.  But when you're using it and it gets in your way - you're probably using the wrong tool.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 04:41:15 PM »

Alex, it's not a matter of subject feeling of how the word processor operates, but rather than in the 2007 iteration of the office suite, the boys at Redmond decided to pull the rug from under many users, not only by changing up the user interface, but by killing off much of the backwards compatibility to the 2005/3 document formats. Of course, their reasons are obvious: fear that OO.org may be gaining marketshare (fact: it's not, because it's overhead is too much for most older PCs) and that current MS Office holders of the 2003 iteration won't budge like those who owned Office 97 didn't budge (and some still aren't budging) for a decade. Or in simpler terms: they're fucking with the customer base because they can. And it's getting out of control. Certainly OpenOffice.org will never compete with the likes of MS Office, but I'm plenty sure some boys at Google could get the Google Docs stuff up to snuff in a jiffy when so ordered (Lets hope, meh...).
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 05:31:28 PM »


Will OpenOffice open .wps and .doc?

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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 05:33:21 PM »

yes
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 05:37:52 PM »



hot diggity

I'll take one. 
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 05:50:54 PM »

If Open Office is still written in Java, then it still sucks.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 06:41:24 PM »

AbiWord is also free, can handle .doc files (and probably .wps, but if not you can always convert them), and is about 10 times lighter than either Word or OOo. I used to carry the portable version on my USB key for when I needed to work on stuff on school computers.
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Re: Weird -- and I mean WEIRD -- problem with MS Word
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 07:18:12 PM »

The lightest word processor of all (lighter than vi) is simply a Web server that lets you edit local files in your Web browser.

But if lightness was a virtue in of itself, all anorexics would be kings!  :lol:
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