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« on: January 14, 2014, 01:25:06 PM »

Also how conspiracy kooks hurt the liberty movement.



Downlaod the January 13th episode free.


Or watch it on Ustream (in the next 30 days).
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 12:39:09 AM »

No.. umm.. WTF?!
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 11:28:45 AM »

No.. umm.. WTF?!

Oh, come on. Back up your case with sound reasoning. Did you listen to the show?
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 08:06:11 PM »

No.. umm.. WTF?!

Oh, come on. Back up your case with sound reasoning. Did you listen to the show?

I did. You sounded like you had your nuts in a vice..

To be sound, if an action is morally repugnant then it is still so when it is done to a person who is morally repugnant. For example, it is not human to punish a rapist by putting him in a lock room filled with rapists. The reason for morality is not for you to benefit, or he, directly. It is about accumulation of deeds. A yin-yang thing if you will. So the reason you do not rape a rapist is to eliminate escalation. An example of escalation would be: Guy rapes your wife, you rape his wife, he rapes your daughter.

However, it is fair to arrange companionship. For example, there is a guy in Game of thrones that likes to remove penises of the people he dislikes, now to arrange him and Joffrey to meet would not be immoral - in fact it would be poetic!

So, you can never act immorally to anyone no matter their behavior, but you can lead one immoral person to another. And while you have a moral duty to render aid to anyone who you don't know or who has not wronged you, you DO NOT have to render aid to someone who owes you a debt of morality.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 09:22:54 PM »

I thought you were making sense up until about this part. Sounds socialist. Are you talking minimal effort, like if I see someone passed out on the sidewalk, I should at least call 911? Sure.

And while you have a moral duty to render aid to anyone who you don't know or who has not wronged you, you DO NOT have to render aid to someone who owes you a debt of morality.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 09:57:52 PM »

is this like a  call in show or something????

 
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 11:49:55 PM »

is this like a  call in show or something????

Do you ever stop to acquire knowledge or are you 100% content to live in your own self absorbed world?

GEE HE IS ONLY POSTING LINKS TO HIS SITE.. maybe click on them an READ?
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 12:04:55 AM »

We're no longer a call-in show though we still broadcast on UStream while we're recording so people can watch us live.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 12:07:18 AM »

I thought you were making sense up until about this part. Sounds socialist. Are you talking minimal effort, like if I see someone passed out on the sidewalk, I should at least call 911? Sure.

And while you have a moral duty to render aid to anyone who you don't know or who has not wronged you, you DO NOT have to render aid to someone who owes you a debt of morality.

Yeah, I bet you do. I have noticed this. The "free state" movement is so very interested in the endowments (I picked that word just for you) of being free, but they are almost never interested in the duties inherit to being afforded rights.

The oldest moral obligation I can think of is borne of sea travel. It is just not moral to sail by a marooned person afloat the ocean. No matter the case, you should render aid if at all possible.

But the inherit duties go much much deeper. If people want to admit them at all.

Take property rights. Many people seem to think that a claim is sufficient to stake resources. Be it water, food, land, or even air. However, it was there before any one person, so by taking it you have to agree upon the common terms. Namely, you will not be a glutton. See the because you took what belonged to no one, it is never really yours. However, you can have the highest stake in it. For example, if I was the first to Montana, and so I claimed all of Montana, that claim would not be respected nor should it. However, if I was the first to Montana, and then setup a road system throughout it and otherwise tempered it, then I would have the highest claim. However, if I have all of Montana, and this other person has nothing, is my claim to such volume of resources valid? Definitely not, simple because it will cause conflict. I have a duty to fairly allow this other person the means to acquire sustenance/sustainability. To say otherwise, is to favor the old and foster conflict. Now no one can morally enforce these concepts upon you but, like i said, it is poetic that immoral people have chance to meet. It is a tragedy that immoral and moral people must share their existence.

Now you can claim that you have rights to all of Montana if you purchase it, but again, you can only claim that which you can hold - any more is gluttony. So if you ever find yourself in position to having purchased all of Montana, just know you have now assigned yourself to great responsibility.

Every right has such inherit duties.

Speech has the duty not to spread lies and panic.
Property has the duty of fairness and equity.
Life has the duty of letting other live and charity.

Again, you can't be forced to live such a way, that is not what i am talking about.

Next time you are stranded and a person drives by you will understand from your resentment of that person why you must help people. To be selfish is to breed discontent and give birth to conflict.


Or you know.. something REAL cheesy like that ;-P
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 02:57:51 AM »

Not, Hitler, no.

But, Joffrey is an asshole. So yes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2014, 06:56:04 PM »

Not, Hitler, no.

But, Joffrey is an asshole. So yes.

LOL you are not serious..
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2014, 11:05:13 PM »

Well, to be fair, this isn't a very serious thread.
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