Drama in the Free State

[Rebel]

Is Ian going to start carping on about how much out-of-the-system activists are getting burned out?

Especially compared to the paltry low burnout rate for inside-the-system activists

what a

[Defendant]

You get burned-out by being a probation monkey.

I have not ever met a single person who got thrown into the thrasher, exited, and wanted more. 

I have met numerous people who took a hay-ride a couple times, and thought it was funny.  But never anybody who looked into the abyss, and said "go ahead, do me", for reals.

When you can count your sentence in days, its kind of a joke.  I got fourteen days, I got sixty days.

Show me one motherfucker who got ten years, comes out in five with a sixty month suspended sentence, and dares the cops to gulag him.

I'll wait. 

Nobody?  Oh, thats because prison SUCKS.

[One two three]

Hopefully the poor guys in jail won't be inundated by a lot of "Wat"s and gay porn.

Lol, Jay has certainly been a troll for years.  Of course, so has Dale.  Dale brought it up, even though it wasn't drama, IMO.  Jay currently lives in Manchester and claims it is the ghetto, even though it is a low crime area, compared to the national average.

[John Shaw]

Jay currently lives in Manchester and claims it is the ghetto, even though it is a low crime area, compared to the national average.

Manchester is run down and generally shitty. I've seen it. I've lived most of my life within 40 minutes of Detroit and I can objectively say that Manchester is kinda dumpy.

It's not Detroit bad. It's not Flint bad. But it's definitely nearing Pontiac/Bay City/Lansing bad.

I'd say it's a reasonably decent place to live in the suburbs of.

And just for the record, I'm not being a giant snob here - I lived for a year in the back lot (Literally, the side of the house bordered the impound lot) of the 6th precinct police station in Detroit. Four people got shot INSIDE THAT POLICE STATION there last year. So what I'm saying is that I understand the difference between the ghetto and the not-ghetto.

Manchester is kinda a shithole. I'd say a 4/10 on the shithole scale, but a shithole nonetheless.

Now I'm imagining Dale saying "This place is a shithole MAAAAAN."

Also, stop calling moderators names on the BBS please.

[Dalebert]

Several thoughts in response to several posts, consolidated for TL;DRers...

Not a troll.

I don't know any free-staters who are on probation. Good behavior, yes, but that does not entail all the things probation does. That said, those are mostly good points and burnout does seem likely.

Manchester is kinda a shit hole but it's still my preferred place to live for a number of good reasons. The crime rate is kinda bad here, at least for NH and compared to a lot of places in the country. We looked it up, remember?

I wasn't calling it drama because Jay took up MtJ. I was calling it drama that yet another activist was burned out. Yes, he was already burned out, but this was a sign of like... completely washing his hands of any activism. It wasn't from going to jail, in this case, btw. It was just bad experiences with other people, mostly people you guys probably never even heard of.

[anarchir]

If Manchester is pretty much the only  real city in NH, wouldnt that help concentrate the "city types" into one spot?

[alaric89]

More tragedies caused by the war on drugs. This one in NH.
http://www.sunjournal.com/news/new-england/2012/04/12/one-police-officer-dead-four-wounded-standoff-cont/1181371

[d_goddard]

Manchester is kinda a shit hole

Depends on what neighborhood you're in.

[alaric89]

With anal sex so popular these days I think the word shithole is being misused here.*
Manchester is a gummed up diesel filter. (those suck and aren't good for anything, can't even get em to work with a fucking air hose)




* I am keeping tabs on this phenomenon, the Santorum (yummy yummy Santorum) thread.

[Cognitive Dissident]

More tragedies caused by the war on drugs. This one in NH.
http://www.sunjournal.com/news/new-england/2012/04/12/one-police-officer-dead-four-wounded-standoff-cont/1181371

Tragedy, maybe...particularly a tragedy that they violently invaded private property and forced the property owner to defend himself.  Tragedy that the drug war pigs won't change their violent behavior in response to this predictable outcome.  Tragedy that they'll self-righteously support even more violence for the purpose of interfering with free commerce.

Tragedy that they'll use this to justify their Bearcat armored murder vehicle.

[Diogenes The Cynic]

More tragedies caused by the war on drugs. This one in NH.
http://www.sunjournal.com/news/new-england/2012/04/12/one-police-officer-dead-four-wounded-standoff-cont/1181371

Tragedy, maybe...particularly a tragedy that they violently invaded private property and forced the property owner to defend himself.  Tragedy that the drug war pigs won't change their violent behavior in response to this predictable outcome.  Tragedy that they'll self-righteously support even more violence for the purpose of interfering with free commerce.

Tragedy that they'll use this to justify their Bearcat armored murder vehicle.

I'm with WTFK here.

The tragedy is that people died here. Not that cops, died.

[One two three]

Manchester is run down and generally shitty. I've seen it. I've lived most of my life within 40 minutes of Detroit and I can objectively say that Manchester is kinda dumpy.

It's not Detroit bad. It's not Flint bad. But it's definitely nearing Pontiac/Bay City/Lansing bad.

I'd say it's a reasonably decent place to live in the suburbs of.

Manchester looks run down because it is old and people don't like to pay high property taxes.  It isn't run down, though.  Lowell, MA is of similar size and is run down.  Lots of Manchester looks OK or pretty nice including much of downtown, south Manchester, north Manchester and parts of west Manchester.  Especially the forests and mountains in west Manchester

I feel very safe in Manchester.  Than again, I'm used to living in or near some of the most dangerous cities in the US.  If a person was used to living in the country, where he didn't even lock his doors at night, Manchester could be a nightmare.

If Manchester is pretty much the only  real city in NH, wouldnt that help concentrate the "city types" into one spot?

If Manchester is a real city, so is Nashua.  The people in Nashua have more money so it looks nicer and rent is higher.  It may have even more jobs (even though it is smaller) and has much better shopping opportunities.  It also has noticeably worse traffic!

For one reason or another, lots of free staters and other liberty (4 non-FSP, pro-liberty state reps live in Manchester) and conservative activists (the 3 men mostly likely to win the GOP nomination for governor either live in Manchester or within a couple miles of Manchester) are concentrated in Manchester.  Perhaps it is the lower taxes/cost of living compared to Concord/Nashua/Keene/Portsmouth/Dover/Derry/Salem.  Perhaps it is that I-293, I-93, 101, 3 and 3A go through Manchester.

[alaric89]

http://www.967thewave.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=444246&article=10085975

[Turd Ferguson]

http://www.967thewave.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=444246&article=10085975

WTF's the guy complaining about?

[Rebel]

I just came here to say why the fuck is BJ doing p-fest ads