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« on: February 05, 2010, 09:09:04 AM »

As of Feb 5, 9am, this story:
http://freetalklive.com/content/underpants_bomber_was_inside_job

is in the #3 story on the front page.  That being despite having a 0, and later, a -1 rating.  I suspect 1 of two things, either of which is obviously a problem:

1. The positioning of stories on the front page is not updated dynamically enough (i.e. earlier it had a rating high enough to allow it to be on the front page, but subsequently it was voted down.  However, it was not consequently moved down and off the front page when that happened).

2. There is a bug in the system which causes 0 rated stories to come high (this was postulated by one of the commenters.  I doubt this though since I voted down another story, causing it to have a 0 rating, but it didn't automatically jump onto the front page.  So I suspect it is #1 which is actually the problem.)
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2010, 09:39:05 AM »

Just noticed something -- either the front page doesn't really use a Digg-style algorithm (which is how I thought it was explained) or it's broken.  All the stories on the front page are ordered strictly by descending order of creation date, regardless of the number of votes.  So it seems that once a story is "made popular" it shows up on the front page, ordered by creation date, and is only pushed down once enough more recent stories have been made popular.  That would explain why the underpants bomber story is still so high even though it's rated poorly - it was apparently made popular then voted down, but because of the way the system works, it's still in 3rd position.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 10:07:06 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2010, 10:08:30 AM »

Drupal Sucks (tm)
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 10:45:11 AM »

Just noticed something -- either the front page doesn't really use a Digg-style algorithm (which is how I thought it was explained) or it's broken.  All the stories on the front page are ordered strictly by descending order of creation date, regardless of the number of votes.  So it seems that once a story is "made popular" it shows up on the front page, ordered by creation date, and is only pushed down once enough more recent stories have been made popular.  That would explain why the underpants bomber story is still so high even though it's rated poorly - it was apparently made popular then voted down, but because of the way the system works, it's still in 3rd position.
Apparently a story "becomes popular" once it receives a score of 3.  So it seems an easy fix for this "underpants bomber" problem is to demote a story from being popular if it once again falls below 3 votes, so it no longer shows up on the front page.

I still think a more organic Digg-like system (taking into account the score and how recent the story is) for displaying the order of the stories on the front page would be more interesting for people, but I can understand why the date-only order was decided upon.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 12:57:44 PM »

Drupal Sucks (tm)
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Sucks less than most other CMSes.
Like Democracy sucks less than rule by a god-king
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 05:52:28 PM »

There are different sort buttons.  One is by date, several are by popularity in different given time periods.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 12:19:54 AM »

Yes, Drigg does not work like Digg, I wish that it did, but it doesn't... and at the moment reprogramming it to work exactly like digg is a little beyond the financial scope of this. Maybe eventually.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 07:33:46 PM »

I also would like to see stories that receive enough - moved to the last page.  Maybe that would help get the many spam contributions off of page 1 and 2 to make voting on real stories/contributions easier. 

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